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edses intervene with president assad and try to convince him this is committing suicide with horrific consequences. it's one of the most -- this sarin gas, one of the most lethal gas that's ever been invented. and the second thing is to convince bashar assad, that i'm not sure he's convinced of, that the consequences of these weapons would have an immediate and devastating response. and reason why i say i'm not sure he believes us, he's watched us leave arack in disarray, he's watched al-qaeda return to arack, he's seen our consulate attacked and no one has paid a price for it for the deaths of four americans. he's watched al-qaeda return and take over mali, he's seen us announcement after announcement of withdrawal from afghanistan and a perception throughout the middle that the united states is withdrawing and weak and i hope he doesn't believe that because i do believe the president when he said he will act. but talking about red lines he's giving a green light to assad to do anything short of that. >> here's the problem with we will actor even our president saying that or other wo
edses intervene with president assad and try to convince him this is committing suicide with horrific consequences. it's one of the most -- this sarin gas, one of the most lethal gas that's ever been invented. and the second thing is to convince bashar assad, that i'm not sure he's convinced of, that the consequences of these weapons would have an immediate and devastating response. and reason why i say i'm not sure he believes us, he's watched us leave arack in disarray, he's watched al-qaeda...
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defense secretary leon panetta is saying there is no new intelligence indicating assad's regime is moving any closer to using the chemical weapons that had so many people on edge just earlier this week. >>> tonight, we are also learning that an american has been held in north korea for more than a month now. according to south korean newspapers, kenneth bayh is a tour operator who was detained after someone on his tour was found carrying a computer hard disk with sensitive information. a u.s. official told us there are no signs that bayh has been mistreated. the swedish government which acts as the protecting power for the u.s. in north korea is reportedly working to help get him released. >>> an australian radio station is donating money to a fund that was set up for the nurse's family, that nurse who apparently committed suicide in england. they say they will donate at least $520,000 to the nurse's family. two deejays at the station called the hospital where prince william's wife was being treated and pretended to be queen elizabeth and prince charles. the nurse who first answered the c
defense secretary leon panetta is saying there is no new intelligence indicating assad's regime is moving any closer to using the chemical weapons that had so many people on edge just earlier this week. >>> tonight, we are also learning that an american has been held in north korea for more than a month now. according to south korean newspapers, kenneth bayh is a tour operator who was detained after someone on his tour was found carrying a computer hard disk with sensitive information....
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officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara, thank you. i want to bring in jill dougherty from ireland where the secretary of state hillary clinton held a news conference. keep in mind, russia here, really, resisted the efforts to speed the departure of the syrian leader al assad. so jill, do we know, was syria's chemical weapons, was that discussed here in this conversation between the secretary of state and the foreign minister of russia? >> reporter: well, yes. initially. there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area wher
officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara,...
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the assad regime is breaking apart. rebel units are being -- are winning and taking over real military bases, but they are still not destroying the regime as of yet. i would say it has some time to go. >> richard engel, thank you so much, richard. thank you. thanks for all your reporting from over there. one major concern, of course, has been assad's stockpile of chemical weapons, which president obama warned last week that he should not use or else risk the consequences. defense secretary kenya commented today. >> i would like to believe he has the message. we have made it pretty clear, and others have as well. it's also clear that the opposition continues to make gains in syria, and our concern is that if they feel like the regime is, you know, threatened with collapse that, they might resort to these kinds of weapons. >> washington post david ignacious joins me. you have been reporting inside syria and throughout the region. what is the appropriate course for the administration? the president trying to warn assad, bu
the assad regime is breaking apart. rebel units are being -- are winning and taking over real military bases, but they are still not destroying the regime as of yet. i would say it has some time to go. >> richard engel, thank you so much, richard. thank you. thanks for all your reporting from over there. one major concern, of course, has been assad's stockpile of chemical weapons, which president obama warned last week that he should not use or else risk the consequences. defense...
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do you believe that assad would do it? >> yes, i believe he would do it because he is desperate and i think he believes the international community will not do anything. he has been protected by moscow and beijing. the west has stood on the side lines and we have given a veto to the sponsors of the assad regime. he thinks he can get away with it. he believes he's lost anyway because the civil war engulfed his regime and the rebels have been on the march the last several months. >> we'll be right back with red light cameras. are they legal? citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do megyn: a major class action lawsuit over red light cameras. this new lawsuit alleges cameras are actually rigged to booths payoff for the ticket collectors. trace gallagher has more on that. >> reporter: it's a cash cow for new york city. $293 million in the past five years alon
do you believe that assad would do it? >> yes, i believe he would do it because he is desperate and i think he believes the international community will not do anything. he has been protected by moscow and beijing. the west has stood on the side lines and we have given a veto to the sponsors of the assad regime. he thinks he can get away with it. he believes he's lost anyway because the civil war engulfed his regime and the rebels have been on the march the last several months. >>...
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and nato allies pressed for assad's departure but any u.n. action has been blocked against assad and tess piety a flurry aimed at the foreign minister at lyclinton's last st in dublin. fundamental decisionses about reforming syria's political system must be made by syrians themselves without outside interference. a disappointing statement for a lot of those trying to get the russians off of a assad's side. opposition should agree to the parameters of a transition period. looking for a solution to the conflict but continues to oppose making the exit a precondition. the u.s. gets involved in syria, it won't transform u.s. policy in the middle east and change the dynamics of everything in washington. trust us on this including the fiscal cliff. >>> well, driving a hard bargain, president obama heads to the motor city and in the middle of a union fight. i have a former governor of michigan here. plus, we'll talk fiscal cliff and debt ceiling with him. plus, one hatch of simpson-bowles. the erskine bowles half. the less dancing of the duo. why for
and nato allies pressed for assad's departure but any u.n. action has been blocked against assad and tess piety a flurry aimed at the foreign minister at lyclinton's last st in dublin. fundamental decisionses about reforming syria's political system must be made by syrians themselves without outside interference. a disappointing statement for a lot of those trying to get the russians off of a assad's side. opposition should agree to the parameters of a transition period. looking for a solution...
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the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the russians and as two states prepare to -- sir richard bransens tells us why the war on drugs has been an utter failure. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this pla
the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it....
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there is talk now that bashar al-assad may try to seek asylum. should the u.s. position be no, you must be held to account for what you've done, or let's just get him out of here? >> well, i don't think the international criminal court is a legitimate organization under any circumstances, but in this case i think it posts the hard question whether this determination to prosecute somebody doesn't cause more death and destruction than giving somebody like bashar al-assad immunity, getting them out of the country and trying to end this conflict. the problem is it's hard to see who can give him that real grant, maybe the russians and that's why there is reporting that they are talking to bashar al-assad. but one reason i think he and other dictators tend to stay to the end is they don't think there is any real immunity and i think that is too bad. gregg: and the u.s. position should be? >> i think if somebody like russia would grant him asylum that we ought to accept it and see if we can't get this conflict over with before 10,000 more civilians are killed. gregg: b
there is talk now that bashar al-assad may try to seek asylum. should the u.s. position be no, you must be held to account for what you've done, or let's just get him out of here? >> well, i don't think the international criminal court is a legitimate organization under any circumstances, but in this case i think it posts the hard question whether this determination to prosecute somebody doesn't cause more death and destruction than giving somebody like bashar al-assad immunity, getting...
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plus, syrian president al assad aaccuses the u.s. of manufacturing stories as a pretext for an invasion. defense secretary leon panetta responding today. after john mack cahfee is in cu, he was rushed to the hospital. and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. [ female announcer ] live the regular life. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. a
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the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the track u.s. submarines. now, this document basically not only outlined the procedures you would use to do that, but the actual technology that you would need to track u.s. submarines. it's very serious because us navy officials will often tell us where surface ships and carriers are located around the world at any particular moment. they almost never discuss where the subs are. that is classified information. now, the zimt says tha
the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it....
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in jihadists among rebels in syria like what happened in libya. >> we have in mind shaping the post assad environment. to look to libya and the resurgence of al-qaeda there. especially what happened in benghazi. >> the obama administration is expected to recognize the fragmented syrian opposition in morocco. >> prosecutors say two alabama men arrested on terrorism violence wanted to wage violence overseas. one captured in bus terminal in augusta, georgia, and the other was taken in atlanta attempting to board a flight. judge said the would-be suicide bombers and spend ten years in prison. prosecutors say mazri wanted to become a fighter for al-qaeda and al shabab terror groups. he was arrested 2010. the head of egypt main association of judges say 90% of the members voted not to oversee the saturday constitutional referendum. senior foreign affairs greg palkot reports people are not waiting until the election to make their feelings known. >> it's another tense night in cairo. supporters, won'ts of mohammed morsi are taking to the streets. critics of the president and the planned referendu
in jihadists among rebels in syria like what happened in libya. >> we have in mind shaping the post assad environment. to look to libya and the resurgence of al-qaeda there. especially what happened in benghazi. >> the obama administration is expected to recognize the fragmented syrian opposition in morocco. >> prosecutors say two alabama men arrested on terrorism violence wanted to wage violence overseas. one captured in bus terminal in augusta, georgia, and the other was...
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only the government, assad's administration has sent a couple of letters to the u.n. suggesting this is all a big plot by the u.s. to get those weapons into the hands of opposition members and then blame the syrians. does this seem logical or like a reach? >> i think it's part of a strategy that the assad regime has decided upon, which is that america is the cause of this. that there is an internal group of terrorists supported by the united states and saudi arabia, so this is part of what the syrians are doing. it's a last ditch effort. i don't think anyone in syria believes it. there's zero chance that the united states is doipg anything like this. it's always clear it's a reaction to president obama's very tough warning to the syrians. that they shouldn't even think about using chemical weapons. >> i'm curious only because there is this report now that united states is employed military contractors on the ground. i think in turkey and jordan, but also inside syria, to help opposition members. should they get their hands on some of these chemical weapons to a, secur
only the government, assad's administration has sent a couple of letters to the u.n. suggesting this is all a big plot by the u.s. to get those weapons into the hands of opposition members and then blame the syrians. does this seem logical or like a reach? >> i think it's part of a strategy that the assad regime has decided upon, which is that america is the cause of this. that there is an internal group of terrorists supported by the united states and saudi arabia, so this is part of...
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a spokesman for the assad regime says president assad will never leave syria nor will he ever use chemical weapons. they deny even having them. intelligence reports suggests otherwise. this bloody conflict, jon, seems to be entering a new phase where we don't really know what will happen. jon: ominous developments there. conor powell, thank you. jenna: well, it was a storm for the record books. superstorm sandy devastating parts of the east coast. it may have been just a category 1 hurricane, just a category 1 but remember, remember this warning from our very own janice dean? >> a million people could be affected by this storm. so people like, oh, it is a northeast storm. only a category 1. what is the big deal? no, this is an impressive storm. this is not just a tropical system as jenna mentioned. we have basically a hurricane inside a giant nor'easter for the record books. the lowest pressure on record at this latitude. so that is impressive. what pressure means, the lower it goes, the stronger the storm that we are dealing with. jenna: if you remember this but at that time when janice w
a spokesman for the assad regime says president assad will never leave syria nor will he ever use chemical weapons. they deny even having them. intelligence reports suggests otherwise. this bloody conflict, jon, seems to be entering a new phase where we don't really know what will happen. jon: ominous developments there. conor powell, thank you. jenna: well, it was a storm for the record books. superstorm sandy devastating parts of the east coast. it may have been just a category 1 hurricane,...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds simplistic. because it's odorless and tasteless and hard to detect, you have to get out of the area. you can get poisoned by ingestion and inhaling and touching it. it can be on your clothes, for example. you get out of the way and take off your clothes or anything exposed to it. soap and water and try to rinse your body. it's a heavier gas as compared to what else is in the area, so it lingers closer to the ground. getting to higher elevation can help. these sound like simplistic things but short of a medication given right away, there's not much else to do. >> it's really scary stuff
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds...
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well, this week president obama put syrian leader bashar al assad on notice specifically about the use of chemical weapons, and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news syria is preparing chemical weapons for their possible use against the syrian people in the form of aerial bombs. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the precursor chemicals for seron nerve gas into aerial bombs that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons site, like this one near homs. while u.s. officials confirmed the precursor chemicals are loaded and they must be mixed together to get the sarin gas. president obama and hillary clinton issued strong warning to syria's president bashar al assad. >> it's the point of no return. they're going to lose any sort of backing they had in terms of the chinese and russians. it's a suicide mission. >> reporter: t
well, this week president obama put syrian leader bashar al assad on notice specifically about the use of chemical weapons, and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news syria is preparing chemical weapons for their possible use against the syrian people in the form of aerial bombs. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now...
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despite its air power, the assad regime appears increasingly defensive. it includes a global number of radical islamists. >> the jihadees are getting big and bigger. the longer the conflict goes on, the bigger it will get. >> reporter: the gee ha des are an offshoot of al qaedas in iraq. according to jeffrey white, a former analyst for the defense intelligence agency, they are now turning the tide against the assad regime. >> they are very good fighters. they are -- they give the rebels a combat edge. they're quite willing to die, they fight on all key fronts, they're involved in many of the key actions. these are not people we want to win. >> reporter: but the rebels making inroads on damascus itself, monitoring of syrian bases like there where chemical weapons are stored has detected evidence the assad regime may be preparing to use them in a last-ditch attempt to save themselves, an act the obama administration has warned could trigger military intervention. worst-case scenarios are threatening to become reality. >> it's not going to be a clean outcome
despite its air power, the assad regime appears increasingly defensive. it includes a global number of radical islamists. >> the jihadees are getting big and bigger. the longer the conflict goes on, the bigger it will get. >> reporter: the gee ha des are an offshoot of al qaedas in iraq. according to jeffrey white, a former analyst for the defense intelligence agency, they are now turning the tide against the assad regime. >> they are very good fighters. they are -- they give...
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even perhaps president assad himself. but so far, we haven't gotten there, the big question is can the u.s. react quickly enough if suddenly president assad says go and those bombs are loaded and those jets take off. >> all right, well, we will keep close track of this story. thank you very much for helping us out. >>> now folks, we switch gears back. we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long weekend. that's kind of insane. eamon javers joins us. >> reporter: the president began his day this morning before an audience of business leaders and he continued his campaign of persuasion amongst some of the nation's top ceos. >> i am passionately rooting for your success. because if the companies in this room are doing well, then small businesses and medium sized businesses up and down the chain are doing well. if companies in this room are doing well, then folks get jobs, consumers get confidence, and we're going to be able to compete around
even perhaps president assad himself. but so far, we haven't gotten there, the big question is can the u.s. react quickly enough if suddenly president assad says go and those bombs are loaded and those jets take off. >> all right, well, we will keep close track of this story. thank you very much for helping us out. >>> now folks, we switch gears back. we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long...
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here's what he said. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences, and you will be held accountable. >> nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in syria to bring us the very latest on what is of course a developing story. richard? >> reporter: david, despite increasing criticism and warnings, the government of bashir al assad is revving up the campaign against the opposition. this area was bombed last night. regarding chemical weapons, commanders we have spoken to are very concerned that the government could use chemical weapons. they are completely not prepared for that eventuality. they don't have gas masks. they don't have medicine. there's no early warning system here. they have appealed for some kind of training, but so far on the ground there is nothing that could protect them from any kind of deadly chemical weapon that could be used. they are also, rebel commanders
here's what he said. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences, and you will be held accountable. >> nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in syria to bring us the very latest on what is of course a developing story. richard? >> reporter: david, despite...
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the fact of the matter assad owns the skies. in other words he has air power, air supremacy, that really protracted his staying in power as long as he has been able to do this. alisyn: the fact he is firing scud missiles now, does that tell you he thinks he is operating with impunity and not afraid of some sort of international retaliation? >> i think he believes certainly right now the only opposition he will get is what is on the ground in syria. he doesn't, he knows for a fact the united states isn't going to up the ante any because we're just not going to be involved in any way and that's obvious to him. therefore other nations are not going to be involved. in terms of scud missiles i think he could be reacting certainly, you know, to the 100 nations recognized the political entity, the national syrian coalition, that is now controlling the military operation. or it actually could be an operational reason. he has got units up in the north, ail list sin, that are cut off. the rebels control airfields and roads. he could emplo
the fact of the matter assad owns the skies. in other words he has air power, air supremacy, that really protracted his staying in power as long as he has been able to do this. alisyn: the fact he is firing scud missiles now, does that tell you he thinks he is operating with impunity and not afraid of some sort of international retaliation? >> i think he believes certainly right now the only opposition he will get is what is on the ground in syria. he doesn't, he knows for a fact the...
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pro president bashar assad forces have fired missile from the capital into rebels there. it comes the same day u.s. in more than 100 countries announced for this day for the first time. it will recognize the rebels adds legitimate representatives of the syrian people. now to south africa a statue of nelson mandela will be unveiled today. the unveiling comes as the former president rae mains in the hospital. the 94-year-old has made progress over the past 24-hours. in italy could these remains be mona lisa? the dna from the bones from a convert in nature rens. they are looking at whether it is lice saw gerdini she is the model that posed for da vinci's famous painting. >> the list of the ten best states for doing business. all but one of those states is actually a right to work state. there could be other factors involved. diane macedo has more on that. >> thousands of people came out to protest. unions there can no longer force workers to pay union dues. but forbes says according to a new survey right to work states have a clear advantage. they show all but one of the top
pro president bashar assad forces have fired missile from the capital into rebels there. it comes the same day u.s. in more than 100 countries announced for this day for the first time. it will recognize the rebels adds legitimate representatives of the syrian people. now to south africa a statue of nelson mandela will be unveiled today. the unveiling comes as the former president rae mains in the hospital. the 94-year-old has made progress over the past 24-hours. in italy could these remains...
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to try to be sure they have some kind of voice in the post-assad world. many think inevitabfvitableably president assad will fall. >> what deeply concerns u.s. officials is a group like the al nusri group getting their hands on some of those chemical weapons stockpiles in syria. >>> our senior international correspondent arwa damon is on the ground inside syria. she has more on the al nusri front. the group declared a terrorist organization by the obama administration. >> reporter: they're incredibly secretive. it's very difficult to actually get access to their leadership. we have been trying that. when you speak with the other fighting units, they have enormous respect for the al nusri front's capabilities because their fighters are deemed to be the most professional, the most dedicated. they're often on the deadliest and most dangerous front lines. even amongst ordinary activists who most certainly do not support al nusri's ideology, that same level of respect is echoed with people believing that, were it not for the presence of the al nusri front, the
to try to be sure they have some kind of voice in the post-assad world. many think inevitabfvitableably president assad will fall. >> what deeply concerns u.s. officials is a group like the al nusri group getting their hands on some of those chemical weapons stockpiles in syria. >>> our senior international correspondent arwa damon is on the ground inside syria. she has more on the al nusri front. the group declared a terrorist organization by the obama administration. >>...
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said today that he does not think that countries ought to offer exile to assad. where are we heading here? is the regime, first of all we understand that the u.s. is going to recognize the occupation -- opposition next week. is the regime close to teetering and do we have to worry about the chemical weapons? >> yes. the answer is secretary clinton is right on. we do have to worry about them. i had a briefing this morning regarding this. obviously i can't release any classified details, but sufficient to say that the threat is real. the warning is real. we have made it crystal clear, president obama, secretary clinton, be have made it absolutely clear as have other countries this is a red line and i believe president assad has received that message from several quarters. the question now is, you know, will someone else grab on to them? there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of a
said today that he does not think that countries ought to offer exile to assad. where are we heading here? is the regime, first of all we understand that the u.s. is going to recognize the occupation -- opposition next week. is the regime close to teetering and do we have to worry about the chemical weapons? >> yes. the answer is secretary clinton is right on. we do have to worry about them. i had a briefing this morning regarding this. obviously i can't release any classified details,...
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is bashar al-assad sensing that he's up against anything this that regard? >> well, that's where i think the administration is talking about a red line lacks credibility. the administration, the president in particular has said if bashar al-assad uses chemical weapons there will be consequences. well, what consequences? indictment by the international criminal court? for somebody in bashar al-assad's situation that is a pretty thin deterrent. and yet we also have to remember, these are very dangerous substances. so we cannot be casual about talking about inserting american or other nato forces as if we're just going to pick these things up like aloof of bread and take them out of the country or destroy them in place. the risk to our personnel i think also has to be taken into account. martha: it seems like two basic scenarios exist right now, either bashar al-assad decides he wants to stay in power and he decides to go ahead and use the chemical weapons to beat the people back, and to make them lose their will to fight him and then he would stay. the other o
is bashar al-assad sensing that he's up against anything this that regard? >> well, that's where i think the administration is talking about a red line lacks credibility. the administration, the president in particular has said if bashar al-assad uses chemical weapons there will be consequences. well, what consequences? indictment by the international criminal court? for somebody in bashar al-assad's situation that is a pretty thin deterrent. and yet we also have to remember, these are...
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appeal to help force syrian president bashar al-assad out of office. that word came today in the russian newspaper, "kommersant." it said moscow is convinced assad will not go voluntarily, no matter what pressure is applied. meanwhile, u.s. defense secretary leon panetta said chances of the syrian regime resorting to chemical weapons may be easing. he spoke during a flight to kuwait. we have seen not seen anything new indicating any aggressive steps to move forward in that way, but we continue to monitor it very closely. we continue to make clear to them that they should not under any means make use of these chemical weapons against their own population. >> sreenivasan: also today, the united nations reported the number of syrian refugees fleeing the fighting has grown to more than 500,000, all across the middle east. and inside syria, rebels captured a second major military base near the northern city of aleppo. new details have emerged from south africa on the health of former president nelson mandela. the government announced today that military doc
appeal to help force syrian president bashar al-assad out of office. that word came today in the russian newspaper, "kommersant." it said moscow is convinced assad will not go voluntarily, no matter what pressure is applied. meanwhile, u.s. defense secretary leon panetta said chances of the syrian regime resorting to chemical weapons may be easing. he spoke during a flight to kuwait. we have seen not seen anything new indicating any aggressive steps to move forward in that way, but we...
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how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key personnel that are involved, the scientists, research and development community, the military leaders, the commanders, that as fran indicated would give the directives to pull the triggers. those guys have to be rounded up. and you have to conduct interrogations. that's very tough. that's kind of basic intelligence work. and it doesn't start until you get on the ground and you start interrogating those guys. >> there's always concern. i remember there was a guy named curve ball providing the u.s. information supposedly about saddam hussein's wmd. >> it was one source. >> but he
how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key...
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government troops have loaded bombs with sarin gas in what may be the last-ditch attempt for president assad to hold onto power. but as barbara starr reports now, a u.s. military strike on syria is not without risk. >> reporter: with the u.s. now believing the syrian government has chemical-filled bombs, cnn has learned the pentagon is secretly updating military strike options for president obama in the event he orders action. a senior u.s. official tells cnn a strike could be carried out with the ships and aircraft already stationed in the region. the planning is being driven by the latest intelligence which u.s. officials say shows sarin gas has been loaded into aerial bombs in at least two locations near airfields. syria seems to have crossed the line drawn by the president last august. >> a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. >> reporter: this week that line seems to have shifted with warnings from the president, secretary of defense panetta, and others focusing on what happens if assad uses the weapons. >> see, these line
government troops have loaded bombs with sarin gas in what may be the last-ditch attempt for president assad to hold onto power. but as barbara starr reports now, a u.s. military strike on syria is not without risk. >> reporter: with the u.s. now believing the syrian government has chemical-filled bombs, cnn has learned the pentagon is secretly updating military strike options for president obama in the event he orders action. a senior u.s. official tells cnn a strike could be carried out...
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in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those weapons of mass destruction? when's that happen? >> larry, the fact of the matter is that i already know some of those weapons have been moved and put into the hands of the iranian revolutionary guards operating in syria and also i believe some of it has been sold to hezbollah. so as far as i'm concerned, there's some of that red line that's been crossed. but to answer your question, the fact remains is that if the intelligence report says, as the president and the press reports are leading us to believe, that precursors have been loaded into those shells, somehow or another we're going to have to
in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those...